MOZA MH16 Flugstab

I'd love to be able to press down on the 4-way switches. They actually click, so I assume they can do it, but the stick doesn't send the signal

The HAT button is great. I was able to map it as a mouse, perfect for in cockpit control of button and switch action in conjunction with left/right mouse button assignments on the throttle.

Feels better in the hand than the MHG (I have the AB6 base), and overall, I like it. There are things I'd like to see improved though:

Button (HAT) shape:
- The real F-16 has a different DMS HAT-switch than the A-10. Since this stick is called MH16, I'd expect the DMS to be the F-16 one, but it's the A-10 one.
- The TMS should have higher side-ridges to make left/right pressing easier

HAT-clickability:
All HAT switches have the typical 5-way-hat feel: 4 directions + push. But only 2 of the HATs actually have the push function (the hard-to reach extension HAT, and the CMS down along the stick). If it's wired, but not supported in software PLEASE MOZA, ADD PRESS FUNCTIONALITY FOR ALL HAT SWITCHES. Absolutely needed for Planes like F-15E

Reachability:
- the extension HAT-Switch is hard to reach for me, I think the HAT and 3-way switch on the extension should switch places, since the HAT is much more useful.

2-stage trigger feel:
- the second stage of the trigger doesn't feel optimal. There's a certain spring force to overcome and then at the end (when one would think the second stage is already pressed), there's still a normal clicky-button feel that actually clicks the second detent.

Produit de bonne qualité mais plus petit et trop léger en comparaison de mon vieux manche de warthog.
Produit retourner facilement.

I like it a lot. Flying it in DCS, IL2, Msfs2024. Good price. Good build quality.
After nearly one year of use no problems. Was the reason to get some other equipment from Moza.

very well manufactured.
works flawlessly without any issue.
using with DCS

Overall is very nice

The Moza MH16 on paper is a great option for the AB9 base. Light weight, about half the weight of the Thrustmaster Warthog grip, with the extra buttons, reminiscent of Winwing’s F16EX grip. Unfortunately, the MH16 has missed the mark relative to both competitors.

First thing, the buttons on the MH16 are “clicky” but they feel cheap. Directional presses of the 5-way buttons often result in unindented adjacent presses unlike Thrustmaster’s grip which is much more predictable and precise.

Next the expansion module, though similar to Winwing’s F16EX grip, fails to really shine by adding a 5-way hat and a 3-position selector switch, unlike Winwing’s grip which offers a much more handy analog stick.

Finally, the paddle lever on the MH16 grip is also a binary button rather than a mich more useful axis.

Moza got close on this grip but fell short to create a grip worthy of the AB9 base. If Moza corrects these shortcomings they could create a fantastic mate to their base…

Or make an adapter for Winwing’s F16EX grip (fat chance)!